Anyone use Coryzalia Homeopathic Cold “medicine”?

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Lulu аѕkеԁ:

Gοοԁ Morning Everyone!

I јυѕt bουght fοr mу 9month οƖԁ son thіѕ homeopathic сοƖԁ treatment fοr runny nose, nasal congestion & sneezing. Aѕ уου аƖƖ know thеrе іѕ nο “real” medicine thаt a child under 1 саn take. I wouldnt even bother bυt wе hаνе a flight tο take іn 4 days, аnԁ want аƖƖ thіѕ runny nose cleared up before flying…. Thе pharmacist refused tο аnѕwеr аnу qυеѕtіοnѕ аnԁ basically јυѕt shooed mе away. Thеу ԁο nοt know enough аbουt homeopathic medicine ѕο thеу аrе nοt allowed tο аnѕwеr аnу qυеѕtіοnѕ whісh іѕ understandable, bυt slightly annoying…

“medicinal ingredients”
Allium cepa 3CH
Belladonna 3CH
Gelsemium sempervirens 3CH
Kali Bichromicum 3CH
Pulsatilla 3CH
Sabadilla 3CH

Hаѕ anyone еνеr tried thіѕ brand οf homeopatic “medicine”?? Box ѕауѕ fοr children 1month-6years.
I bουght іt аt a regular drug store thаt hаѕ a real pharmacy department.. ѕο yes thе pharmacist іѕ a real one :) sorry hit sumbit tοο soon…
Thе pharmacist ѕаіԁ thеу аrе nοt trained іn homeopathic medicine, ѕο thеу аrе nοt allowed tο discuss anything аbουt іt.. ѕhе thеn ԁіԁ thе zip thе lip movement.
I wеnt tο thе doctor yesterday, hе hаѕ a сοƖԁ, nothing more severe. Thіѕ stuff іѕ approved fοr sale bу Health Canada leaflet inside..ѕο I cant see аnу harm.. anything іѕ better thеn nothing rіght now ѕіnсе wе аrе going tο bе flying іn 4 days..

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4 Responses to “Anyone use Coryzalia Homeopathic Cold “medicine”?”

  1. dave on July 21st, 2009 1:56 am

    Homeopathy only works by the Placebo Effect, something that is very unlikely to work with a baby (don’t be fooled by the placebo-by-proxy effect, which isn’t really placebo at all).

    Are you sure this was a properly qualified pharmacist and not a ‘natural’ (i.e. unqualified) pharmacist? It’s probably the case that the ‘pharmacists’ are not allowed to answer questions for fear of accidentally saying it can treat medical conditions (which would be against the law with homeopathic mixtures).

    Any properly qualified pharmacist would be happy to discuss your concerns, especially when the health of a small child is at stake.

    So to recap: You’ve bought something you don’t know, from someone who refuses to discuss it, to give to your own child. WHY are the alarm bells not ringing? Does this sound normal or reasonable?

    If you’re concerned about your child’s health you should really see a properly qualified doctor. Clearly something very unorthodox is going on here, and when your child’s health is so important to you, why take risks with such an unacceptable situation?

    Edit: Ahh, yes then it’s a case of “It doesn’t work, so by law we’re not allowed to say it does”. You have to ask yourself whether such secrecy is really a responsible way to run a business, let alone one involved in health in anyway.

    Quite simply you’re being scammed. Make sure you consult a doctor if you’re concerned, sales staff work on commission and have no medical training.

  2. thenoseknows on July 22nd, 2009 5:03 am

    This is a homeopathic “combo” remedy: the idea is that if one of the ingredients isn’t exactly specific to the patient’s issues, another will be (eg. allium cepa is made from onions, so the symptomatology would follow red, runny eyes, runny nose — exactly what happens to some people when they’re grating onions…). Belladonna is for issues with sudden onset… etc. There are lots of mini homeopathic encyclopedias that you can reference for home use, and lots of info. at specific homeopathy websites like ABC Homeopathy on various remedies.
    One of the neatest things about homeopathic remedies is that they’re safe for all ages (and species) and don’t have side effects.
    Many pharmacists are not open-minded because they’ve been taught nonsense like some of the posts you see on this site from rabid anti-holistic people.
    “Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence” – Albert Einstein

  3. Rhianna on July 25th, 2009 5:29 am

    No, your child likely has a viral infection, they are self limiting, just make sure he is kept hydrated, give simple calpol and let him rest. Homoeopathic cough medicines (hahaha) are quite worthless. Pharmacological cough and cold medicines in children of this age can actually be dangerous, avoid both.

    And thenoseknows STILL doesn’t know anything and neither does his new friend Flashflood.

    @Flashflood: Thats why I said, “your child LIKELY has a viral infection” It goes without saying, that if symptoms persist or worsen, the child should see a Doctor. I am not making a diagnosis, it would be completely foolish to do that on the Internet. And homoeopathy STILL isn’t plausible!

    I said SIMPLE Calpol. It’s paracetamol! I did NOT advise that she gives her child a cough and cold medicine, I quite clearly stated that cough and cold medicines in children of that age are NOT a good idea. It goes without saying that she should check the particular medicine is suitable for her child and child’s age. So…FAIL.

    Sigh, can’t let this go can you Flashflood, and you accuse ME of projecting. The child has a cold, often with colds, there is a mild fever that accompanies it, and sometimes pain. I’m well aware this lady didn’t state her child had a mild fever or even any pain, but paracetamol can still help general symptoms that come with a cold. Paracetamol is useful in this situation. By simple, I meant the basic Calpol which is Paracetamol.

    Homoeopathy is worthless, for the reasons we have stated before. I simply advised an alternative that may help in this situation since one is limited what they can actually give to a child of this age.

    Sigh…last edit. You’re clinging on, trying to make a point but you’ve failed miserably. I never said it was called “simple” calpol, simple is my word to mean the basic calpol. The point you keep missing is that paracetamol is a well tolerated drug. I disagree with unnecessary medication, however short term paracetamol (within the prescribing scope) is seldom of any consequence. Advising a mother to give her child who has a cold paracetamol is rational advise. 9 month old babies are not able to tell us if they are in pain are they? Body language isn’t always a good predictor. Get a grip

    Sorry, but you haven’t provided any reason to suggest I am delusional. Paracetamol isn’t only helpful for a fever. It can help the general symptoms of a cold, which I have stated about 10 times. I’ve said in previous postings that a fever is only dangerous is it gets beyond a certain temperature, otherwise it’s physiological and we probably shouldn’t be trying to routinely reduce it, however it is symptomatically unpleasant and the child has to take a flight and it’s on this basis I recommended it..;_ylv=3?qid=20100407234200AAdy48A&show=7#profile-info-IAkEyPb9aa

    “oh yeah can’t sell drugs”

    Typical! when you uneducated alties cannot get anywhere with your pathetic attempts to discredit what we say you start with the conspiracy theories! Epic Fail.
    OMG you are insane. You’re clearly getting desperate because you are picking on the words I have used. Obviously 10 times in an exaggeration. It’s just this argument is getting boring, you’ve lost, failed to make any valid point and still can’t let go.

    As I stated before, I’m well aware there is no mention of this child having a fever or pain, but in my opinion (and I highly doubt you will find many Doctors that disagree with me) giving a baby who has a cold, paracetamol which may relieve symptoms a little, is rational advise. We don’t know what symptoms the baby has do we? 9 month old babies aren’t able to tell! There is no harm giving it as a precaution. As has been stated there is no mention of a fever, I suggested that the child might have a mild fever Fevers aren’t always dangerous, however they can be unpleasant. I did NOT recommend Calpol on the basis that the fever is dangerous, I recommended it on the basis that it’s unpleasant. FAIL.

    And no my recommendations were not necessarily for pre-flight, but it won’t do any harm either way. Provide evidence that giving Calpol in this situation is dangerous. Can’t can you? FAIL.

    It is fallacious to suggest all conventional medicine is bad based on past mistakes. Antibiotic resistance was mainly due to the fact Doctors were incorrectly prescribing antibiotics for viral infections, etc. More has been studied and such Rx are rarely given in this instance. Antibiotics was not even mentioned in this question duh!

    In the UK, we do try not to over medicate. What you yanks do..well…..

    Epic Fail, but thanks for the laugh again Flashflood.

  4. Gary Y on July 28th, 2009 6:49 pm

    Good morning Lulu. Off the shelf homeopathy does go against the principles of proper homeopathy, however the principles of proper homeopathy are totally preposterous anyway.

    Allow me to describe just how preposterous homeopathy really is:

    The first principle of homeopathy is ‘like cure like’ – so if you have insomnia, homeopaths will give you a remedy made from Coffea, which is made from the coffee bean. If you think that sounds stupid, they actually dilute this coffea, and they think the more you dilute something, the stronger it gets!

    To explain, a typical dilution of coffea may be “6C”. 6C means a dilution ratio of 10 to the power of 12. The percentage of active ingredient in the final solution is 0.0000000001%. Or the equivalent of one metric drop of water in 20 Olympic swimming pools.

    If you think this is nuts, they have remedies with dilutions up to 1500C, and even higher. Consider that a typical 200C dilution, that is; 10 to the power of 400, would require giving two billion doses per second to six billion people for 4 billion years to deliver a single molecule of the original material to any patient.

    And consider there are only about 10 to the power of 80 atoms in the entire observable universe; a dilution of one atom in the observable universe would equal only about 40C.

    When you are buying homeopathic ‘medicine’ you are buying water or sugar pills only. Not one molecule of the original active ingredient remains. To counter this, homeopaths will claim the water has a ‘memory’. Of course this is rubbish and is supported by no science. Some try to justify this by using pseudoscientific versions of quantum or other theories – a classic scam tactic.

    Furthermore – the vast majority of research literature on homeopathy shows clearly that it is no better than placebo. And the better the quality of clinical trial, the worse the result.

    So homeopathy has zero plausibility and and no good evidence of efficacy. Knowing this, only cognitive dissonance can excuse you from believing in it.

    Late last January, skeptics in several countries protested against homeopathy being sold in pharmacies, by publicly taking mass overdoses of homeopathic medicines. No one experienced any ill effects, except sugar rush.

    It’s an interesting thing that people who support homeopathy seem to suffer from ‘True Believer Syndrome’. No matter how much evidence you put under their noses, or how blatantly implausible homeopathy is, they will fight tooth and nail in support of it. Homeopathy is under incredible fire at the moment, especially in the UK. Its only a matter of time before it is a thing of the past. Modern medicine is making so many incredible advances at the moment, we are on the threshold of a whole new nano-era. Alternative medicines are just going to fade into oblivion.

    I hope your little bloke if feeling well soon.

    Homeopathy – there’s nothing in it.

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